Today on the flagship podcast of Arm-based chipsets:

03:08 - The Verge’s Tom Warren and David Pierce discuss the announcements from Microsoft’s Surface event, including the new Arm-powered Surface Laptop, and Copilot Plus PCs.

27:29 -Verge senior AI reporter Kylie Robison joins the show to chat about OpenAI’s GPT-4o demo and where we’re headed in the next few years of AI.

57:40 - Nilay Patel answers a question about iPads for this week’s Vergecast Hotline.

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